1: Egg ★＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:46:42.59 ID:CAP_USER*.net
ACミランの日本代表MF本田圭佑が、再びクラブを批判する発言をしたとして現地で話題になっている。本田のクラブ批判に続いたベルトラッチ
伊『スポーツメディアセット』など複数メディアは、本田が自身が在籍した2年半を振り返って「クラブが継続性を欠き、それに比例して暗黒期が伸びている」と指摘し、さらにカカやロビーニョ、フェルナンド・トーレスら鳴り物入りで加入しても結果を残せなかった選手たちを槍玉に挙げて「引退間近の選手を獲得するべきでない」という主旨の発言を残したと報じた。
これに対し、イタリアのラジオ『ラジオ・スポルティーバ』でミラン専門の記者ピエトロ・マッツァーラ氏がコメントし、「本田はこういったクラブ批判をやめなければ自ら墓穴を掘っているようなもの」と”10番”に厳しい非難を浴びせた。
また同氏は今回の一件で本田が6日のボローニャ戦のスターティングメンバーから外れる可能性が高まったと述べ、クラブから謝罪と発言の撤回を求められるのではないかと推測している。
本田は「ミランは非常に有名で伝統があるクラブで、誰もが偉大な存在に戻れると思っている。だが、今のままではかつての姿を取り戻せないと考えている」とも語ったとされ、これらの発言はイタリアで波紋を広げている。
昨年10月にもミランの組織構造に改革の必要があるとメディアの前で発言したことが話題になったが、再びのクラブ批判は大きな問題になりかねない。シニシャ・ミハイロビッチ監督は5日21時（日本時間）から記者会見を行うが、その中で本田の発言に触れるか注目だ。
⇒本田が再びクラブ批判？ イタリアで波紋広がる「自ら墓穴掘った」（フトチャン）
2016年1月6日（水）23:00 ＡＣミラン vs ボローニャ
http://soccer.yahoo.co.jp/ws/league/?l=53
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3: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:48:35.47 ID:oYtxEQrB0.net
言ってる事は正しいがイチ所属選手が言う立場ではないw
66: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:04:53.35 ID:E2VLOQpo0.net
>>3
本田は他の人はたかが選手と思ってるだろうけど、
僕はたかが選手とは思ってませんってこの前の中山ゴンとの対談で言ってたよ
本田は他の人はたかが選手と思ってるだろうけど、
僕はたかが選手とは思ってませんってこの前の中山ゴンとの対談で言ってたよ
4: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:48:39.14 ID:pc8rDnq60.net
あながち間違った事は言ってないんだけどね
5: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:48:41.82 ID:Wuq9zk480.net
暗黒面の間違い
8: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:49:37.98 ID:1SCRzZ2Y0.net
長友「やめてくれケイスケ・・・・」
14: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:51:17.08 ID:0D3cY19k0.net
意味が良く理解できない。スターウォーズみたいな感じ？
17: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:51:50.59 ID:5cJj1Gvi0.net
本田の発言はどこソース？
24: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:53:59.51 ID:KUrpK+Mo0.net
どこで、誰に対して言ったのかが問題だね。
28: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:54:16.76 ID:/wbhmI1L0.net
いつ言ったんだよｗｗｗｗｗ
31: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:54:29.44 ID:CmxMd7jt0.net
これいつ言ったの？
33: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:55:27.55 ID:p9vklGEW0.net
ソースは共同通信だって
今からググるわ
今からググるわ
40: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:57:50.59 ID:Gh2OlP+40.net
いうほど非難されること言ってねえだろ
41: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 20:59:00.01 ID:J/aGA+CWO.net
>>40
本当にね
本当にね
50: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:01:27.93 ID:y5L9GrIM0.net
選手の立場は超えてるかもしれんけど、正しいよ？
ミランは監督をコロコロ代えて継続性がない。
すべて中途半端。
本田も納得出来ないだろう。
監督に合わせようとしたら、監督が代わるんだから。
ミランは監督をコロコロ代えて継続性がない。
すべて中途半端。
本田も納得出来ないだろう。
監督に合わせようとしたら、監督が代わるんだから。
57: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:03:05.51 ID:J/aGA+CWO.net
>>50
コロコロって程は変わってないだろ
インザーギなんて１シーズン乗りきったし
コロコロって程は変わってないだろ
インザーギなんて１シーズン乗りきったし
81: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:09:35.45 ID:U4SwsTHB0.net
>>50
正論だとは思います。監督に合う合わないは仕方ないけど、結果を出せてない。
プロなら使ってもらってなんぼ。それができない、ポリシー曲げないなら辞めるしかない。
正論だとは思います。監督に合う合わないは仕方ないけど、結果を出せてない。
プロなら使ってもらってなんぼ。それができない、ポリシー曲げないなら辞めるしかない。
51: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:01:37.12 ID:Sk+FyUDg0.net
言ってることは間違ってない
言う人が間違ってる
言う人が間違ってる
70: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:05:40.91 ID:88g+Z6PX0.net
ゴンとの対談ではそんなこと言ってなかったけどな
どこで言ったんだ？
どこで言ったんだ？
74: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:07:54.24 ID:9gA7t1PX0.net
本田さんはほんま飽きないなあ
スーパースターや
スーパースターや
86: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:10:42.84 ID:p9vklGEW0.net
元ネタはこれか
⇒Honda determined to reach goals as player, owner（JapanTimes）
⇒Honda determined to reach goals as player, owner（JapanTimes）
Growing up in Osaka, Keisuke Honda dreamed of signing with AC Milan and wearing the No. 10 for the Rossoneri, a dream the Japan international has managed to realize.
But two years after arriving at the San Siro to huge fanfare and massive expectations, Honda concedes his time in Milan has been anything but dreamy.
“I admit, the picture I had in my mind isn’t quite like how things have turned out for me,” Honda said in a recent interview with Kyodo News at the plush Bulgari Hotel in Milan, Italy.
“But I’m not that taken back by it because it’s not the first time I’ve encountered the unexpected in my life. Looking ahead to the future, this kind of experience will be good for me so I’m soaking everything up in the most positive way imaginable.”
Despite only transferring from CSKA Moscow in January 2014, Honda is already playing for his fourth manager at Milan, with Sinisa Mihajlovic now in charge after Massimiliano Allegri, Clarence Seedorf and Filipo Inzaghi all got the ax.
Honda’s second full campaign in the Italian league has been trying; he has just one goal in a scant 15 appearances in the league and league cup, and the team is stuck in sixth place, eight points off the pace of crosstown rival Inter Milan.
Honda, though, remains unfazed by the struggles, explaining the problems at Milan are deep-rooted and that no one single signing — not even his own — can help revive the seven-time European champions.
“Milan were in a tough spot when I signed so I knew what I was getting into,” he said. “Allegri was the one who wanted to sign me but by then the situation started getting really ugly. I came here with the hope I might be able to help turn things around, but then the managers started getting sacked and as a result, Milan have been on a difficult path for the last two-and-a-half, three years.
“But the winning pedigree is still strong at this club and very few teams around the world have this kind of blood. We have potential but whether we can get back on our feet while I’m here is another matter. We’re no longer in a position where we can sign someone and hope that he alone can fix it.
“I mean, who have we signed the last three years? There was Kaka, Robinho, (Mario) Balotelli, and Fernando Torres, who is playing great for Atletico (Madrid) now. People don’t seem to notice those things. Who else? (Sulley) Muntari, (Michael) Essien. We’ve had some really good players come through here.”
During his tumultuous time in Milan, Honda, who is nearing veteran status as he turns 30 in June, has added a new description to his CV as de facto owner of Austrian third division outfit SV Horn, a purchase his representative firm made this past summer.
Honda’s goals for Horn are nothing short of ambitious — promotion to Austria’s top flight in three years, and qualification for the Champions League in five. But one should expect nothing less from a man who says Japan’s goal at a World Cup should be to win it all, no exceptions.
Honda insists club ownership is not a casual venture to spend his millions on, and that he is committed to Horn for the long haul. Honda signed his first Japanese player after holding an open tryout in July, a pint-sized striker named Shota Sakaki from Consadole Sapporo of the J. League second division. Going into the winter break, Horn was on top of the table.
When he’s not on the pitch, the two-time World Cup star describes himself as restless, constantly seeking new business opportunities to expand his horizons.
“I’d love to be able to stay away from my phone for a week, but I can’t,” he said. “I must be suffering from some illness.”
Once his playing days are behind him — whenever that may be — Honda hasn’t ruled out a coaching career on top of his administrative duties at Horn.
“What I’m experiencing now, this will help me at Horn,” Honda said. “I look at Milan and where we are from the view of management, from the view of a coach. I’m not at Milan just as a player; I play but I’ve also analyzed and observed the club from a number of angles.
“The most important thing I’ve learned in running a club is that you cannot let up. I imagine it’s drastically different to management in the corporate sector. Things change a lot from week to week; you could be doing great one week and hit rock bottom the next.
“What I can say for sure is I want to continue to be an owner. I feel like I can bring something new to the table in the way owners work with coaches and players. You never know what can happen in the world of football.
“But first and foremost, I want to achieve my goal as an owner and if at some point the opportunity comes around, then I’ll think about coaching. It’s an extremely intriguing job.”
But two years after arriving at the San Siro to huge fanfare and massive expectations, Honda concedes his time in Milan has been anything but dreamy.
“I admit, the picture I had in my mind isn’t quite like how things have turned out for me,” Honda said in a recent interview with Kyodo News at the plush Bulgari Hotel in Milan, Italy.
“But I’m not that taken back by it because it’s not the first time I’ve encountered the unexpected in my life. Looking ahead to the future, this kind of experience will be good for me so I’m soaking everything up in the most positive way imaginable.”
Despite only transferring from CSKA Moscow in January 2014, Honda is already playing for his fourth manager at Milan, with Sinisa Mihajlovic now in charge after Massimiliano Allegri, Clarence Seedorf and Filipo Inzaghi all got the ax.
Honda’s second full campaign in the Italian league has been trying; he has just one goal in a scant 15 appearances in the league and league cup, and the team is stuck in sixth place, eight points off the pace of crosstown rival Inter Milan.
Honda, though, remains unfazed by the struggles, explaining the problems at Milan are deep-rooted and that no one single signing — not even his own — can help revive the seven-time European champions.
“Milan were in a tough spot when I signed so I knew what I was getting into,” he said. “Allegri was the one who wanted to sign me but by then the situation started getting really ugly. I came here with the hope I might be able to help turn things around, but then the managers started getting sacked and as a result, Milan have been on a difficult path for the last two-and-a-half, three years.
“But the winning pedigree is still strong at this club and very few teams around the world have this kind of blood. We have potential but whether we can get back on our feet while I’m here is another matter. We’re no longer in a position where we can sign someone and hope that he alone can fix it.
“I mean, who have we signed the last three years? There was Kaka, Robinho, (Mario) Balotelli, and Fernando Torres, who is playing great for Atletico (Madrid) now. People don’t seem to notice those things. Who else? (Sulley) Muntari, (Michael) Essien. We’ve had some really good players come through here.”
During his tumultuous time in Milan, Honda, who is nearing veteran status as he turns 30 in June, has added a new description to his CV as de facto owner of Austrian third division outfit SV Horn, a purchase his representative firm made this past summer.
Honda’s goals for Horn are nothing short of ambitious — promotion to Austria’s top flight in three years, and qualification for the Champions League in five. But one should expect nothing less from a man who says Japan’s goal at a World Cup should be to win it all, no exceptions.
Honda insists club ownership is not a casual venture to spend his millions on, and that he is committed to Horn for the long haul. Honda signed his first Japanese player after holding an open tryout in July, a pint-sized striker named Shota Sakaki from Consadole Sapporo of the J. League second division. Going into the winter break, Horn was on top of the table.
When he’s not on the pitch, the two-time World Cup star describes himself as restless, constantly seeking new business opportunities to expand his horizons.
“I’d love to be able to stay away from my phone for a week, but I can’t,” he said. “I must be suffering from some illness.”
Once his playing days are behind him — whenever that may be — Honda hasn’t ruled out a coaching career on top of his administrative duties at Horn.
“What I’m experiencing now, this will help me at Horn,” Honda said. “I look at Milan and where we are from the view of management, from the view of a coach. I’m not at Milan just as a player; I play but I’ve also analyzed and observed the club from a number of angles.
“The most important thing I’ve learned in running a club is that you cannot let up. I imagine it’s drastically different to management in the corporate sector. Things change a lot from week to week; you could be doing great one week and hit rock bottom the next.
“What I can say for sure is I want to continue to be an owner. I feel like I can bring something new to the table in the way owners work with coaches and players. You never know what can happen in the world of football.
“But first and foremost, I want to achieve my goal as an owner and if at some point the opportunity comes around, then I’ll think about coaching. It’s an extremely intriguing job.”
ロビーニョ、カカ、などの部分機械翻訳
「しかし、勝利を得た血統はまだこのクラブで強いです、そして、世界中の極めて少ないチームはこの種の血があります。我々には可能性があります、しかし、私がここにいる間、我々が立ち直るようになることができるかどうかはもう一つの問題です。我々は、誰かに署名することができて、彼だけがそれを固定することができることを望むことができる位置にもはやいません。
「つまり、我々はこの3年誰とサインしましたか？カカ、ロビーニョ、（マリオ）Balotelliとフェルナンド・トレスがいました。そして、その人は現在アトレチコ（マドリード）のために偉大なふりをしています。人々は、それらのものに気がつくようでありません。他に、誰？（サリー）ムンタリ、（マイケル）エシアン。我々には、ここで切り抜けられる一部の本当に良いプレーヤーがいました。」
「しかし、勝利を得た血統はまだこのクラブで強いです、そして、世界中の極めて少ないチームはこの種の血があります。我々には可能性があります、しかし、私がここにいる間、我々が立ち直るようになることができるかどうかはもう一つの問題です。我々は、誰かに署名することができて、彼だけがそれを固定することができることを望むことができる位置にもはやいません。
「つまり、我々はこの3年誰とサインしましたか？カカ、ロビーニョ、（マリオ）Balotelliとフェルナンド・トレスがいました。そして、その人は現在アトレチコ（マドリード）のために偉大なふりをしています。人々は、それらのものに気がつくようでありません。他に、誰？（サリー）ムンタリ、（マイケル）エシアン。我々には、ここで切り抜けられる一部の本当に良いプレーヤーがいました。」
101: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:14:08.33 ID:W8/pwjip0.net
>>86
この記事のタイトルはなんだｗ？
Honda determined to reach goals as player, owner
この記事のタイトルはなんだｗ？
Honda determined to reach goals as player, owner
135: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:23:46.08 ID:p9vklGEW0.net
>>86
英語で書いてあるんだから読めるだろ
Honda said in a recent interview with Kyodo News at the plush Bulgari Hotel in Milan, Italy.
英語で書いてあるんだから読めるだろ
Honda said in a recent interview with Kyodo News at the plush Bulgari Hotel in Milan, Italy.
111: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:17:20.63 ID:hCHOLKXm0.net
正論言うだけならお前らでもできるわな
117: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:18:23.73 ID:25Vj3mCg0.net
小なりとは言えさすがクラブオーナー様だなｗ
122: 名無しさん＠恐縮です＠＼(^o^)／ 2016/01/05(火) 21:19:55.56 ID:J/aGA+CWO.net
イタリアメディアは直接本田さんにロングインタビューすればいいのに
日本の記事漁らずにさ
どうせ、誤訳意訳だらけになるんだし
日本の記事漁らずにさ
どうせ、誤訳意訳だらけになるんだし
しました
perin
が
しました